Wednesday, May 16, 2018


( JoeH had the headline for this article in his Stupid Headlines Sunday post.  I was fascinated by it.  Here is the complete story by Christopher Cameron of the New York Post.)

·With an asking price of $85 million, the 15,000-square-foot duplex penthouse at the Atel
With an asking price of $85 million, the 15,000-square-foot duplex penthouse at the Atelier — located at 635 W. 42nd St., near less-than-glam 12th Avenue — costs $5,666 per square foot. That’s nearly double the record for the Hell’s Kitchen neighborhood. But what’s really mind-boggling are all the over-the-top extras that come with the place (which, by the way, boasts Hudson River views but no outdoor space).
Among them: two Rolls-Royce Phantoms — a hardtop and a convertible — as well as a Lamborghini Aventador roadster. There is also a $1 million, 75-foot yacht, with five years of docking fees on the Hudson, plus a summer stay in a Watermill mansion that rents for $350,000 a season.

But wait, there’s more: a year’s worth of weekly dinners for two at Daniel Boulud’s 65th Street flagship, a pair of courtside season tickets to the Brooklyn Nets (valued at around $225,000), and a year of services from a live-in butler and a private chef. The kicker is out of this world: two $250,000 seats on a Virgin Galactic space flight.
So what gives?
Penthouse owner Daniel Neiditch, who is also the building manager of the Atelier and the president of the building’s condo board, is the man behind the marketing. And the 39-year-old property investor, who owns the brokerage firm River 2 River Realty, says it’s all about the chance for a lucky buyer to live their own lavish life.
“Someone not from New York can [move here and] have a New Yorker’s lifestyle and point of view,” said lifelong New Yorker Neiditch, who previously lived in the building. “In a way, I’m offering my lifestyle. I’m offering a way for a foreigner to jump right in.”
“Going to outer space was always a dream of mine,” added Neiditch. And, in fact, the courtside seats, cars, Hamptons house, butler and yacht are all his own — and he insists he has enough to go around.

“It’s not like I’m going to be out on the street. I have another Hamptons house. I have other cars,” Neiditch said, adding: “It’s not that I am selling stuff that I don’t want. It’s all stuff that I thought created a nice package.”
Other real-estate insiders are skeptical of the whole thing, especially given the fact that the penthouse has been on the market for five years already and Neiditch hasn’t adjusted the ask.
“People only pile up giveaways when they won’t reduce the price. It has never made a lot of sense to me,” a top Manhattan broker said. “You are millions of dollars overpriced and you think throwing in a $250,000 car is going to make it better?”
Manhattan broker Ryan Serhant, who also stars on the series “Million Dollar Listing New York” on Bravo, said that while luxe incentives are unusual in New York, that’s not the case in markets like Los Angeles, where homeowners have more space to sprawl.

“If you have a house with a helipad and it comes with a helicopter, that makes sense,” he said. “But in New York you have to ask: Where are you going to park a car and when are you ever going to use it?”
While Neiditch says he will pay any taxes associated with the transfer of his lavish playthings — which are worth around $5 million all told — he will not allow the buyer to deduct the items’ value from the asking price even if they don’t want his stuff.
“If they don’t want the items that come with the sale, they can sell them,” Neiditch said.

There is another sticking point: That $85 million does not buy you an actual turnkey apartment. Instead, you get a bunch of smaller pads.
The sales package includes a $2 million construction credit, because the “penthouse” is currently configured as 13 separate units, filled with month-to-month renters. Neiditch has already commissioned architectural plans for the conversion, and it would take 30 days to evict the tenants, he said.
“Getting the permits and planning could take six to nine months. The actual construction could probably be done in a year to 18 months,” said lauded New York architect Peter Pennoyer, who frequently handles condo combinations.
He also doesn’t think a $2 million credit will go very far. “People typically spend a minimum of $500 per square foot, so $7.5 million would be a reasonable starting point [for the renovation]. But people often spend much more than that.”
Several prominent Manhattan brokers take umbrage with the fact the listing does not disclose that the units are not combined. However, it does not seem to violate any rules, including those of major listings clearinghouse
“It’s called deceptive advertising, plain and simple,” the president of a major New York brokerage stated.
Neiditch denied that there’s any deception. He also claimed to have already turned down a $50 million offer.

“We’ve got overseas people coming to see it,” Neiditch said. “We have people in India who know that [Indian media billionaire] Subhash Chandra bought a triplex in the building [in 2012] and are eyeing [this penthouse].”
If Neiditch gets his way, it will be a potential game-changer for how business is done. But that’s precisely why his wheeling and dealing has earned so many eye rolls.
“How do you sell something that is insanely overpriced? You throw in a bunch of stuff and get attention,” the top Manhattan broker said. “But at the end of the day . . . you pay on a square-foot basis, and no dinner for two is going to make it a better deal.”

Any takers?



  1. Not tempted. Which might be sour grapes but I don't think so, despite the fact that anyone who is going to hate me for my money is in desperate straits.

  2. Like EC, not tempted at all, even if I had that much money. It's far too flash and I'd have no use at all for any of those extras.

    1. Wouldn't you like to drive one of those cars to the market?

    2. Important point number one: I don't drive, never learned.

  3. I was interested, but the bank turned me down on an 85 million dollar loan.

  4. The real kicker for me is that it's not even one finished apartment!! The guy has balls. He's probably find someone from some other country with money to burn if he waits long enough, I suppose. Being too rich is not something I ever have to worry about--LOL!

    1. But there is a $2 million construction credit!!

    2. Yah! And having to evict people and wait another 1-1.5 years to move in. And you know with construction it will be 2+ years--LOL!

  5. Not ever slightly interested for you would still be in NY city. I remember visiting my uncle and we had to take a cab to where his car was parked in a garage he rented.

    1. I have been to Tokyo, London, Paris, Berlin, Rome & many other busy world cities. In NY I felt like a hick & I couldn't breathe because I couldn't see the sky; the buildings were too tall with no airspace between them!!

  6. I think I'll pass. It would be a long drive back to the gas station chicken store for my 44 oz Diet Coke every day.

    1. They probably have $44.00 Diet Cokes in NY!!

  7. You had me at "trip to space," but an $85 million dollar apartment...that's crazy!

    1. I would LOVE to go to space, too!!


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